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I have to agree that Cubs fans are a bit obnoxious. But I also understand where the strong connection to the team comes from.
For those that have never been, Wrigley Field is located right in a neighborhood. Across the street are neighborhood bars, duplexes and apartment buildings. People can listen to the game out their windows. Bleachers are installed on the rooftops of the buildings located on the 1st and 3rd base sides.
The ballpark is really a "ballpark" and not a stadium. It's small and intimate. It's hard to get a bad seat.
There was no jumbotron that I saw. I did however see old television sets with wood on the sides strapped above so fans can see instant replays.
It reminded me of the stories of old Sportsman Park that used to be in north St. Louis. Where the games could be heard for blocks in every direction and pride bursted from all the boys and men that lived near.
I do wish we could have something like that again.
No one I know feels any sense of ownership in the new Busch Stadium -- or any of the new stadiums or arena we've paid for in the last 15 years.
Seeing what Wrigley Field was made me a little less irritated at the Cub fans yelling obsenities at my team on the field.
All sports fans are by definition obnoxious. That is their rasion d'etre. I don't see how you can limit that condemnation to the Cubs faithful.
As for Chicago public transportees, I can't imagine them being any more selfish, boorish or otherwise inconsiderate than any other population. They are merely a subset of the human race which is in general selfish, boorish and inconsiderate; and getting more so with every passing day.
I grew up just a few blocks from Sportsman's Park, and know exactly what you're talking about, Antonio. I'm posting anonymously, so I don't mind admitting I remember the 1964 World Series against the Yankees. We could hear the crowd roaring each time there was a hit. Grand Avenue had plenty of bars, restaurants, and shops, so the 10 minute walk to the ballpark gave you plenty to look at or buy. I remember going to games in the summer, sitting with my Grandpa in the bleachers, eating popcorn from my Cardinals megaphone. It was a neighborhood thing, and now it's a downtown thing full of folks from West County who never come into the City otherwise. Oh, well.
My pet peeve: On a full train, someone sits on the aisle with an empty window seat next to her. She won't move in or let anyone sit there even though people are standing. This is a city so there will be people, selfish rider!
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WRIGLEY FIELD!
The center and source of 90% of Chicagoans who do not know even basic public transit etiquette* in Chicago!
Needless to say, I don't miss it!
* i.e. don't constantly shout, don't harass other train riders, don't conversate loudly, don't use more than one seat for yourself, ETC.
9:02 PM, April 08, 2006
I take it you don't ride Metrolink very often, Claire.
9:17 PM, April 08, 2006
Ha Ha,
I ride Metrolink every day, and I will take two seats if the train is not full.
3:01 PM, April 09, 2006
I have to agree that Cubs fans are a bit obnoxious. But I also understand where the strong connection to the team comes from.
For those that have never been, Wrigley Field is located right in a neighborhood. Across the street are neighborhood bars, duplexes and apartment buildings. People can listen to the game out their windows. Bleachers are installed on the rooftops of the buildings located on the 1st and 3rd base sides.
The ballpark is really a "ballpark" and not a stadium. It's small and intimate. It's hard to get a bad seat.
There was no jumbotron that I saw. I did however see old television sets with wood on the sides strapped above so fans can see instant replays.
It reminded me of the stories of old Sportsman Park that used to be in north St. Louis. Where the games could be heard for blocks in every direction and pride bursted from all the boys and men that lived near.
I do wish we could have something like that again.
No one I know feels any sense of ownership in the new Busch Stadium -- or any of the new stadiums or arena we've paid for in the last 15 years.
Seeing what Wrigley Field was made me a little less irritated at the Cub fans yelling obsenities at my team on the field.
5:55 PM, April 09, 2006
All sports fans are by definition obnoxious. That is their rasion d'etre. I don't see how you can limit that condemnation to the Cubs faithful.
As for Chicago public transportees, I can't imagine them being any more selfish, boorish or otherwise inconsiderate than any other population. They are merely a subset of the human race which is in general selfish, boorish and inconsiderate; and getting more so with every passing day.
8:51 PM, April 09, 2006
I grew up just a few blocks from Sportsman's Park, and know exactly what you're talking about, Antonio. I'm posting anonymously, so I don't mind admitting I remember the 1964 World Series against the Yankees. We could hear the crowd roaring each time there was a hit. Grand Avenue had plenty of bars, restaurants, and shops, so the 10 minute walk to the ballpark gave you plenty to look at or buy. I remember going to games in the summer, sitting with my Grandpa in the bleachers, eating popcorn from my Cardinals megaphone. It was a neighborhood thing, and now it's a downtown thing full of folks from West County who never come into the City otherwise. Oh, well.
11:05 AM, April 10, 2006
My pet peeve: On a full train, someone sits on the aisle with an empty window seat next to her. She won't move in or let anyone sit there even though people are standing. This is a city so there will be people, selfish rider!
1:30 PM, April 10, 2006
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